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The IRS goes shopping

#1 User is offline   freeBatjko 

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 07:02 PM

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<h1 align="center"> Acquiring Shotguns</h1> Internal Revenue Service

Solicitation Number: TIRWR-10-Q-00023
Notice Type: Combined Synopsis/Solicitation
Added: Feb 02, 2010


Quotes are solicited under Request For Quotation (RFQ) number TIRWR-10-Q-00023. This announcement constitutes the only solicitation; a written RFQ will not be issued. If your company can provide the product listed in the RFQ and comply with all of the RFQ instructions, please respond to this notice.

This requirement is a Small Business Set-Aside and only qualified sellers may submit quotes. NACIS code for this requirement is 332994. The RFQ opens on the date this announcement is posted and closes Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:00:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Response should be emailed or mailed by the closing date to Marc.Feinberg@irs.gov or IRS, 1301 Clay Street, Suite 810S, Oakland, CA 94612. FOB Destination shall be Washington DC.

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

Submit quotes including 11% Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax (FAET) and shipping to Washington DC.

The following provisions and clauses in the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) apply to this acquisition and include any addenda to the provisions. This solicitation incorporates one or more provisions and clauses by reference with the same force and effect as if they were given in full text: Provisions FAR 52.212-1 Instructions to Offerors – Commercial Items (June 2008); 52.212-3 Offeror Representations and Certifications – Commercial Items (August 2009); Clauses 52.212-4; Contract Terms and Conditions – Commercial Items (March 2009); and 52.212-5 Contract Terms and Conditions Required to Implement Statutes or Executive Orders – Commercial Items (December 2009). The full text of a FAR clause may be accessed electronically at http://www.acqnet.gov.

New equipment only; no remanufactured products. No partial shipments

Offer must be good for 30 calendar days after submission

Offerors must have current Central Contractor Registration (CCR) at the time offer is submitted. Information can be found at www.ccr.gov.


This is a combined synopsis/solicitation for commercial items in accordance with Federal Acquisition Regulation Part 12, Acquisition of Commercial Items. The government will award a commercial item purchase order to the offeror with the most advantageous offer to the government. All offerors must submit their best price and delivery capabilities.


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Posted 06 February 2010 - 01:38 AM

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The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.


O RLY?

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 06:33 AM

well it struck me as interesting.
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 05:52 PM

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There is a serious problem with your "freedom" when tax collectors collect money using deadly force. I believe that this and "freedom" are incompatible.

What's more distressing is that there are americans who are willing to do the dirty work for a paycheck and a piece of tin. What's even MORE distressing is that some of them actually believe that they're "doing the right thing".

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 06:33 PM

I think it's funny how specific they want their shotgun and that they are the only shotguns authorized for IRS use.

But yes, it is distressing they have to use shotguns to do their job.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 10:18 PM

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Submit quotes including 11% Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax (FAET) and shipping to Washington DC.


Wait, the IRS has to pay tax to BATF?
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 06:15 PM

View PostWillshire, on 07 February 2010 - 12:33 PM, said:

I think it's funny how specific they want their shotgun and that they are the only shotguns authorized for IRS use.

But yes, it is distressing they have to use shotguns to do their job.



to be honst, i'm glad they do. i'd be more concerned if they didn't need them.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 06:21 PM

View PostRyan Jackson, on 06 February 2010 - 10:18 PM, said:

Wait, the IRS has to pay tax to BATF?


Gotta set a good example, right? .... right?

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 06:56 PM

View PostfreeBatjko, on 08 February 2010 - 07:15 PM, said:

to be honst, i'm glad they do. i'd be more concerned if they didn't need them.


13 year old John Titor and his shotgun totin' merry band of fightin' diamondbacks will take them on.:lol:
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 07:31 AM

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There is a serious problem with your "freedom" when tax collectors collect money using deadly force. I believe that this and "freedom" are incompatible.

Back it up one step. There is a serious problem with "freedom" when taxes are imposed in the first place. Once they're imposed, the only way to collect them is through the threat of force, including deadly force.

In fact, everything government does is like that. That's what government does. As JTR has so correctly pointed out before, laws aren't just "a cheery suggestion". The guns are necessary in order to keep the subjects in line. Without the inevitable threat of deadly force, government would have absolutely zero power or authority. Think about that for a bit.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 11:23 AM

I KNOW you are correct. I fully realize that the threat of death is implicit in laws.

While I disagree vehemently with the idea that government has the right to steal our money at will, I wouldn't care one bit about "taxes" if there was no downside to ignoring them.

But - money is more important than american lives if they're threatening people with bodily harm for not forking it over.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 11:26 AM

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While I disagree vehemently with the idea that government has the right to steal our money at will, I wouldn't care one bit about "taxes" if there was no downside to ignoring them.

Yup, everybody would be the same. The fact that government has guns is what makes us care, when you get right down to it.

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But - money is more important than american lives if they're threatening people with bodily harm for not forking it over.

Are you just now coming to this realization? It's nothing new, I assure you.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:19 PM

No - I realized 20 years ago what the scam is. It's just disgusting every time I see evidence of it.

Stories like this throw the whole criminal enterprise into sharp relief.... knowing that they value money more than freedom or life.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:22 PM

No one has ever been shot simply for not paying their taxes.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:27 PM

View PostDoc, on 09 February 2010 - 01:22 PM, said:

No one has ever been shot simply for not paying their taxes.


Agreed, the feds escalate until it ends up with shots fired.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:31 PM

View PostThrawn, on 09 February 2010 - 01:27 PM, said:

Agreed, the feds escalate until it ends up with shots fired.



Well, if shots are fired, it's because someone escalates it, but it is not necessarily the Feds.

Sometimes it's the deadbeat that did not pay their legally owed taxes, and is trying to use force to stop the legal seizure of assets to pay their legally owed debt.

If they weren't deadbeats, and paid their legally owed taxes, or did not try to criminally stop the legal seizure and sale of assets to pay their legally owed taxes, IRS agents would not even carry guns. :D
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:40 PM

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If they weren't deadbeats, and paid their legally owed taxes, or did not try to criminally stop the legal seizure and sale of assets to pay their legally owed taxes, IRS agents would not even carry guns.

Yup, that's true. Just like if them slaves weren't lazy sumbitches, and picked the cotton when asked by their rightful owners, and did not try to run away, the owners would not even carry those whips. ;)
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:41 PM

View PostTobus, on 09 February 2010 - 12:40 PM, said:

Yup, that's true. Just like if them slaves weren't lazy sumbitches, and picked the cotton when asked by their rightful owners, and did not try to run away, the owners would not even carry those whips. ;)


OHHHHH no you dit-int!!!

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:44 PM

View PostTobus, on 09 February 2010 - 01:40 PM, said:

Yup, that's true. Just like if them slaves weren't lazy sumbitches, and picked the cotton when asked by their rightful owners, and did not try to run away, the owners would not even carry those whips. ;)



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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:47 PM

View PostDoc, on 09 February 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:

Damn skippy ....so get off the computer, and get back to work.




ETA: Did slaves have the power/right of the vote, to decide whether or not they'd be enslaved?

I know those paying taxes do, as to whether or not they'll be taxed.

And they have decided, by the "Holy Majority", that taxation is the law of the land. :P

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